EP 82: Ferocious Warmth & Balancing The Head And Heart Of Leadership

How do successful school leaders manage to balance their passion and drive with empathy and human connection?

In this episode of the School of Wellbeing podcast, host Meg Durham sits down with Tracey Ezard, author of Ferocious Warmth, to explore this very topic. Discover the concept of ferocious warmth and how it can help leaders create a thriving environment for students, teachers, and support staff.

Listen in as Tracey shares stories of real-life leaders who embody this balance and the positive impact they have on their teams. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a new appreciation for the power of ferocious warmth in school leadership and how it can lead to greater success and wellbeing for everyone involved.

In this conversation we discuss

▫️ The elements of Ferocious warmth.

▫️ How to balance the head and heart of leadership.

▫️ Why leaders have such a big impact on school culture

▫️ And so much more…

You can quote us on that…

“The type of leader that most people want to be led by are ones that have competency and warmth.”

Tracey Ezard

“How can we lead a learning culture if we’re not actually role modeling that we’re learners?”

Tracey Ezard

“When we’re very much in our heart, we can be worried that people won’t like us.”

Tracey Ezard


Tracey Ezard | Website | Instagram | LinkedIn | Books

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Hi, I'm Meg!

B.Phys Ed, M. Ed (Student Wellbeing), CIPP

I’m a teacher with experience working in primary and secondary schools across Australia, and a specialist in the field of wellbeing education and coaching. I founded Open Mind Education in 2013 with a vision of sharing practical, enriching wellbeing education with staff, parents, and broader school communities.

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